ICE Hero Kills Domestic Terrorist in Minneapolis Saving Lives

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  • #2496561
    ujm
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    A heroic agent from the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement neutralized a domestic terrorist in Minneapolis, who after intentionally Obstructing of Government Administration and Interfering with Law Enforcement by using her vehicle to block and obstruct ICE law enforcement officers from accessing the road, was asked to move her vehicle and stop interfering with police activity, but refused that lawful order by law enforcement. After refusing she was ordered by law enforcement to remove herself from her vehicle to be placed under arrest. She, further, Resisted Arrest and attempted to become a fugitive. Law enforcement officials from ICE, as trained to, blocked her vehicle from escaping. Instead of surrendering, as lawfully ordered, she switched her vehicle from reverse to moving forward directly into a police officer from ICE. To save his life and the life of others and prevent this domestic terrorist from causing significant bodily harm or death to himself and other law enforcement officers using her vehicle as a weapon, the officer immediately neutralized her thereby saving the public from this menace.

    He should be awarded a medal and a promotion. Instead, left-wing demagogues from the Democrat Party in Minnesota have taken to attacking law enforcement. Thank G-d federal law enforcement officers are immune to state and local prosecution, as well as from civil lawsuits, under the principle of federal supremacy and qualified immunity, thereby precluding these leftist politicians from acting upon their political demagoguery.

    #2496732
    akuperma
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    An unarmed person who when challenged about being parked illegally, and threatened no one. The video shows clearly there was no one in front of her. The ICE agent moved to get out of the way since her car was likely to skid since the ground was clearly ice impacted. She was asked to move, and did so, and they killed her.

    He was brave. Like the Germans who got medals for courageously shooting unarmed Jews. Like the Brits who courageously fired on a rock throwing mob in Boston. If the Trump administration keeps this up, we run a real risk of a Mamdani type fool becoming president in 2029. At best, the officer should have fired at the tires instead of her head. Since this was not an area of law ICE deals with, they should have asked a local policeman to give her a traffic ticket and be done with it. ICE has been stretching the law by arresting and trying to deport American citizens and legal aliens whose only crime was being an immigrant from central America. Trump is shooting himself in the foot, and even if the Democrats nominate a communist anti-semite on an platform of destroying America, it might not be enough to save MAGA, or the country.

    #2496749

    I would wait for more info. It could be that ICE agents were frustrated by others obstructing them, then this lady happened to be in a wrong place, panicked in response to instructions, first did not move when told so, then started moving when told to get out of the vehicle, the agent upfront sees her backing into agents behind without seeing exactly where everyone is …

    #2496765
    ujm
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    akuperma: Factually wrong.

    The law enforcement officer ordered her out of the car. To be arrested. She resisted arrest. And attempted to flee and become a fugitive. Law enforcement lawfully, and as trained, attempted to stop her escape from justice.

    She then used her vehicle as a deadly weapon moving in the direction of the law enforcement officer. He then used his best split second judgement that she may run him over. While the videos are unclear whether or not she did or did not actually end up hitting him before he stopped her, as well as being unclear whether she was moving directly into him or moving slightly to his left, he was left with a life or death judgement whether she was attacking him with a moving automobile. The law protects the law enforcement officer in such circumstances.

    She created the deadly circumstances by refusing a lawful order to stop and get out of her vehicle. After refusing that lawful order and resisting arrest, she illegally switched her vehicle from reverse into forward, where the officer was standing.

    The earlier attempt lawfully ordering her to drive her SUV out of the way and stop impending the carrying out of law enforcement activities, she had refused to comply with. She missed that opportunity by refusing the lawful order to get out of the way. At that point she was being placed under arrest and legally could no longer move away.

    Your idea that he should have called the local police is foolhardy. Should the ICE police officer have called 911 after she ran over him with her SUV?

    #2496773
    ujm
    Participant

    Timeline of events:

    1. A 37 year old female rioter with a history of impeding law enforcement activity of ICE intentionally blocks the road with her vehicle to prevent law enforcemnent from passing the road.
    Crime: Obstruction of Governmental Administration (OGA) / Obstructing a Peace Officer

    2. ICE police officer lawfully orders the female driver to move her vehicle out of the way so that law enforcement can move down the road.

    3. The driver refuses the order.
    Crime: Failure to Obey a Lawful Order / Disobeying a Lawful Order

    4. ICE police officer lawfully orders the driver to get out of the vehicle so he can place her under arrest for above crimes she committed.

    5. The driver refuses.
    Crime: Resisting Arrest

    6. The police officer attempt to open the driver’s door to take custody of her.

    7. The driver suddenly reverses her vehicle, while the police officer is holding the door, in an attempt to escape police custody.
    Crime: Assault on a Police Officer / Battery on a Peace Officer

    8. Another ICE police officer moves in front of her vehicle to block her.

    9. The driver switches from reverse to forward and accelerates towards the second police officer.
    Crime: Assault with a Deadly Weapon on a Peace Officer / Aggravated Assault on a Police Officer / Attempted Murder of a Law Enforcement Officer

    10 . The police officer, who the car was moving towards (and may have been physically hit), in a self-defense split-second life or death decision to protect his life and others (who the moving vehicle may additionally hit) fires upon the rioter.

    #2496901
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Akuperma,

    Where did you get your story from?

    Ujm,

    Where did you get yours from?

    The only way we can really know what happened is by body cam footage

    #2496954
    DovidBT
    Participant

    The only way we can really know what happened is by body cam footage.

    Public figures have reported what happened. The ones with a reputation for honesty, transparency and common sense supported ujm’s viewpoint. The ones with a history of lying to promote a corrupt political agenda supported akuperma’s viewpoint.

    That’s not enough to convict or acquit someone in a courtroom, but it’s enough for a reasonable person to form an opinion.

    #2496968
    ujm
    Participant

    CA: All the points cited were widely reported. In addition to what is seen on the various videos circulating. There isn’t much dispute as to the timeline. It is only the interpertation thereof that the left-wing Big Media and their Democrat Party friends are hyperventilating about.

    No one disputes she has in the past been active working against ICE enforcement.
    No one disputes she was intentionally blocking ICE on the road with her vehicle.
    No one disputes she was asked to move out of the way.
    No one disputes she was ordered to exit her vehicle to surrender for arrest.
    No one disputes she refused to exit and resisted arrest before events took a turn for the worse.
    No one disputes she attempted to flee after being ordered to exit.
    No one disputes she reversed her vehicle while a police officer had his hands on her door trying to open it.
    No one disputes she the switched to forward and accelerated while another police officer was in front of her car.

    And there’s a new video out from the front angle showing that she hit the officer in front with her car. That was the officer who shot her in self-defense.

    Good riddance to this deadly agitater.

    #2497414
    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    מחלוקת מציאות

    #2497439
    ujm
    Participant

    The New York Times and the Washington Post and and Bellingcat, all left-wing outlets, agree in their analysis and conclude that physical contact occurred between the woman’s SUV and the ICE agent. (Those outlets try to poo-poo it by dismissing it as “only” being the SUV clipped or brushed his leg.)

    The woman’s presence at the scene was intention to be there to oppose ICE. It was not as originally claimed that she was merely passing by coincidentally.

    Her vehicle stopped diagonally, blocking the lane to stop ICE: Obstruction of Governmental Administration (OGA) or “Interfering with a Federal Officer” (18 U.S.C. § 111)

    A “prima facie” case exists against her of Fleeing a Peace Officer (MN Stat § 609.487) and Resisting Arrest when an officer with “apparent authority” ordered her out of a car and she instead put the car in reverse to drive away.

    An agent was still physically touching the door handle when she shifted into reverse. Under 18 U.S.C. § 111, “forcible interference” does not require a strike. If her movement caused the agent to stumble or jerked his arm, it can be charged as Assault on a Federal Officer.

    By accelerating forward while an agent was at the front corner of the car, who her SUV hit (which wasn’t even necessary for this crime but strengthens the case against her) she weaponized the vehicle. This is Domestic Terrorism/Attempted Murder.

    Since the ICE police officer believed the SUV was veering into him (and it in fact did hit him, which isn’t even necessary for his belief), his “reasonable belief” of a threat justifies his discharging his weapon against her under federal law. So the first shot is definitely self-defense. As far as the second and third shots, once a “threat” is perceived (the car accelerating), the officer makes the decision to fire a “volley” of shots; even if the car passes him and the threat is gone by the second or third shot, the human brain takes roughly 1.5 seconds to process that the danger has ended and to signal the finger to stop pulling the trigger.

    #2497440
    ujm
    Participant

    Under the “Graham v. Connor” Standard (1989) force is judged from the perspective of a “reasonable officer on the scene” who must make split-second decisions in “tense, uncertain, and rapidly evolving” circumstances. The moment the SUV accelerated towards him and especially once the SUV clipped him, any reasonable officer would have feared the next 1.5 seconds would involve being crushed. Under this standard, the shots are certainly legally justified in a federal court.

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